Making It Easier Yet to Carry Guns

It'll be Glocks around the clock if this bill passes

This article concerns a bill working its way through the Colorado legislature: House Bill 11-1205.

It passed the Colorado House Judiciary Committee 8 to 3 – with Democrats Pete Lee (e-mail) and Daniel Kagan (e-mail) voting ‘aye’ – you might want to keep that in mind when you’re comparing candidates in the future.

The full text of the bill (found at scribd.com) is at the end of this article.

There’s also a great editorial at the DenverPost.

What this bill does is allow permitless carry – IE, go to Bubba’s Gun Emporium, pick your piece (skip the background check cause we’re all pals!) stick it in your belt and swagger off to a liberal protest. If one of those DFHs gives you any shit (like, for example, looks at you) you can, as one of our local lunatic fringers likes to put it: “They start it, we’ll finish it!” and it’s time for a hot-lead massage while Lady Liberty tries to keep her skirt from blowing up too high.

This is really a bad idea and trying to frame the argument against concealed carry permits as a ‘coat tax’ (you put on your coat your have to pay a tax) is the most facile bullshit I’ve ever heard. Concealed carry permits give law enforcement at least a fighting chance of guessing how many guns might be in a given crowd, not to mention when to be extra careful at that 4am domestic-abuse call.

This is being quietly hustled through the legislature and you’ll find little information about it except on far-right websites… which should tell you something.

‘Constitutional Carry’ is teabagger-speak for ‘You’re not the boss of me, I can take my toys anywhere, anytime!’ (foot stomp).

Don’t let these angry children change our laws, call your state senator today – Directory by District. Stop this madness now.


First Regular Session Sixty-eighth General Assembly

STATE OF COLORADO
INTRODUCED
LLS NO. 11-0175.01 Richard Sweetman
HOUSE BILL 11-1205

HOUSE SPONSORSHIP
Holbert, Sonnenberg, Acree, Balmer, Barker, Baumgardner, Becker, Bradford, Brown, Conti, DelGrosso, Joshi, Kerr J., Liston, Looper, Massey, McKinley, McNulty, Murray, Nikkel, Priola, Scott, Stephens, Summers, Swerdfeger, Vaad, Waller
SENATE SPONSORSHIP
Brophy, Grantham, Renfroe, Harvey, Cadman, Lambert, Lundberg, Kopp, Mitchell, KingS., Roberts, Scheffel
House Committees Senate Committees
Judiciary

A BILL FOR AN ACT CONCERNING THE AUTHORITY OF A LAW ABIDING PERSON TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN WITHOUT A PERMIT

Bill Summary
(Note:  This summary applies to this bill as introduced and doesnot reflect any amendments that may be subsequently adopted.  If this billpasses third reading in the house of introduction, a bill summary that applies to the reengrossed version of this bill will be available at http://www.leg.state.co.us/billsummaries.)
The bill creates exceptions to the offenses of carrying a concealed weapon and unlawful possession of a weapon on school, college, or university grounds if the person may legally possess a handgun under the laws of Colorado and of the United States.  A person who carries a concealed handgun under the exception has the same carrying rights and is subject to the same limitations as apply to a person who holds a permit to carry a concealed handgun.

Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the State of Colorado:

SECTION 1. 18-12-105 (2) (f), Colorado Revised Statutes, is amended, and the said 18-12-105 (2) is further amended BY THE ADDITION OF A NEW PARAGRAPH, to read:

18-12-105.  Unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon – unlawful possession of weapons. (2)  It shall not be an offense if the defendant was:

(f)  A United States probation officer or a United States pretrial services officer while on duty and serving in the state of Colorado under the authority of rules and regulations promulgated by the judicial conference of the United States; OR
(g)  A PERSON WHO MAY LEGALLY POSSESS A HANDGUN UNDER THE LAWS OF THIS STATE AND OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE WEAPON INVOLVED IN THE INCIDENT WAS A HANDGUN. THE AUTHORITY TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THIS PARAGRAPH (g) IS EQUAL IN ALL RESPECTS TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED BY A PERMIT TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN AS SPECIFIED IN SECTION 18-12-214. A PERSON WHO CARRIES A CONCEALED HANDGUN PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THIS PARAGRAPH (g) HAS THE SAME RIGHTS AND IS SUBJECT TO THE SAME LIMITATIONS SPECIFIED IN SECTION 18-12-214 AS APPLY TO A PERSON WHO HOLDS A PERMIT TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN.

SECTION 2. 18-12-105.5 (3) (h), Colorado Revised Statutes, is amended, and the said 18-12-105.5 (3) is further amended BY THE ADDITION OF A NEW PARAGRAPH, to read:

18-12-105.5.  Unlawfully carrying a weapon – unlawful possession of weapons – school, college, or university grounds. (3)  It shall not be an offense under this section if:

(h)  The person has possession of the weapon for use in an educational program approved by a school which program includes, but shall not be limited to, any course designed for the repair or maintenance of weapons; OR

(i)  THE PERSON MAY LEGALLY POSSESS A HANDGUN UNDER THE LAWS OF THIS STATE AND OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE WEAPON INVOLVED IN THE INCIDENT WAS A HANDGUN. THE AUTHORITY TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THIS PARAGRAPH (i) IS EQUAL IN ALL RESPECTS TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED BY A PERMIT TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN AS SPECIFIED IN SECTION 18-12-214. A PERSON WHO CARRIES A CONCEALED HANDGUN PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THIS PARAGRAPH (i) HAS THE SAME RIGHTS AND IS SUBJECT TO THE SAME LIMITATIONS SPECIFIED IN SECTION 18-12-214 AS APPLY TO A PERSON WHO HOLDS A PERMIT TO CARRY A CONCEALED HANDGUN.

SECTION 3. Effective date – applicability. This act shall take effect upon passage and shall apply to offenses committed on or after said date.

SECTION 4. Safety clause.
The general assembly hereby finds, determines, and declares that this act is necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, and safety.

Shading denotes HOUSE amendment.  Double underlining denotes SENATE amendment.
Capital letters indicate new material to be added to existing statute. Dashes through the words indicate deletions from existing statute.

  7 comments for “Making It Easier Yet to Carry Guns

  1. February 27, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Denver Post Editorial:

    Keep checks for concealed carry
    Gun owners should have to pass a background check in order to carry hidden weapons. The legislature should kill HB 1205.

    http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_17485094#ixzz1FClHKglS

  2. Dusty
    March 2, 2011 at 11:29 am

    You make it sound as if all of us who carry guns are angry people who crave death, destruction, and mayhem. You couldn’t be further from the truth. I would like to point out that the right to bear arms is guaranteed to us in the second amendment, and that the second amendment exists for us to protect ourselves against tyranny. (attack on author removed) Talk to me face to face about this. I also live in Longmont. If you would like to sit down and discuss this as gentlemen, I would be glad to do so. (attack on author removed)

    –Dusty

  3. March 2, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Dusty, just based on the (deleted) insults in your ‘comment’ I think you prove my point. Just because you disagree with someone doesn’t give you the right to kill them. To paraphrase some, “I am not kind to that mindset.” However, I encourage you to leave comments – but please review our commenting policy first.

  4. Dusty
    March 2, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    I would like to state now that I never said I had the right to kill anyone. You did. I do not have that right because the right to decide who lives or dies is for the courts, and for God. That said, I have a philosophy on gun ownership:

    With great power comes great responsibility. A firearm gives a person the ultimate power. That is the power to end life. However, I believe that my responsibility as a firearm owner is to preserve life at all costs.

    What does that mean? Let me clarify:

    If the only thing I have to do is to even draw my weapon and an attacker runs away, then I have successfully ended a potentially bad situation. If the attacker runs, then I would not shoot. That would be no different than a soldier blatantly opening fire on someone who was trying to surrender. Firing on someone who is surrendering is plain despicable. If I die as an old man having shot at nothing but paper targets, then I would be extremely happy.

    That said, would you be willing to have a face to face discussion with me about this? You can even record and publish what I say provided that everything I discuss gets posted verbatim and is not taken out of context.

    I want to prove to you that not all of us are crazy “teabaggers” or “fringe psychos” or whatever you choose to label us as.

  5. March 2, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    Dusty, I approached the RMGO a while back and was rebuffed quite decisively. They weren’t interested (to put it mildly)in any Progressive site. I’m sure RMGO would be willing to post your arguments and I encourage them to do so. I’m sure that not all of you are crazies. If you’re really dead-set on explaining your position I’d rather we had the discussion right here, in plain sight where all can see and participate. If you can abide by the posting rules, speak your mind.

  6. FRED BATES
    November 8, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    When is it going to settle into the consciousness (including that of one Glenn Beck), that the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution points up the necessity of a “well-regulated” militia? Hence, the right to keep and bear arms. What does “well regulated” mean? In the late 18th century that phrase referred to training. And until the 1840s nearly every American soldier had to supply his OWN individual weapon when he went marching off to this war or that. So the farmers and merchants were EXPECTED to keep that musket oiled and some powder dry, hanging on the hearth. In these days of an “all volunteer” armed forces mandate, and the National Guard seeming to have little trouble filling its quotas, I do question the imagined “need” for every RV owner to have an AK-47 behind the door. Does everyone out there remember the rules of firearms? (1) every firearm is ALWAYS loaded, even if it’s not. and (2) don’t point at anything you don’t intend to shoot. I was pretty darned good with long guns, lousy with handguns. And I won’t own one now. If the PLA breaks into my house, they can have my tv and all my chopsticks.

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